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michigan union fighting a new crackdown. a legal eagle saying they will still get shut down. ♪ the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles u can actually use. tragically, their ddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. t with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the oreboard doesn't lie. what's in urallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. ♪ neil: well, signed to a sealed, but still not delivered. days after michigan's governor sign that right to work bill, different groups already filing lawsuits to block it. lots more are expected. the folks trying to block the law to have a case. they disagree. explain to me why they might have a case. >> to very important reasons. first, there is a due process issue about how this came into place. there was no notice. they actually closed down the state house. it was done in secret. whenever something is done in secret, peopl
michigan union fighting a new crackdown. a legal eagle saying they will still get shut down. ♪ the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles u can actually use. tragically, their ddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. t with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the oreboard doesn't lie. what's in urallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy...
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this is about us being michiganers. >> those who make $4,500 less than state who tonight have a right to work... >> it prevents unions from requiring public sector employees to join unions as part of their employment. >>> last night president barack obama and house speaker john boehner had a phone conversation and following the meeting, the white house offered a new proposal lowering its tax revenue from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion. house speaker john boehner offered an undisclosed counteryesterday. >>> well, we want to take you out there live and there it is. it will leave in just 25 minutes and guess what it even includes whyfie an offers trips to sacramento and reno as well as trips from san jose to oakland to los angeles and the company is briefly operating in 2 -- was recently briefly operating in 2007. >> wouldn't you want to watch ktvu channel 2 news on your iphone. i am thinking about what sal was saying about our roads this morning. >>> it is going to be wet and i think if you are driving give yourself extra time this morning and perhaps you want to take your cup of coffee w
this is about us being michiganers. >> those who make $4,500 less than state who tonight have a right to work... >> it prevents unions from requiring public sector employees to join unions as part of their employment. >>> last night president barack obama and house speaker john boehner had a phone conversation and following the meeting, the white house offered a new proposal lowering its tax revenue from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion. house speaker john boehner offered an...
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on the heels of the michigan's right-to-work law. union leaders are focusing on upcoming gubernatorial elections. at the same time, looking at options on how to appeal the laws already in effect. the huffington post points out there's a slew of lawsuits, citizen's initiative, repealing legislation and line item veto. opponents' right-to-work laws are formulating a strategy of their own. if they got michigan perhaps this is where they'd move next. the top five states with unionized workforces. joining me democratic strategy steven albendor. high taxpayer debt could be the next after michigan. which next state might be in the cross hairs? >> the most interesting thing to me, indiana started this trend. all businesses started locating towards indiana. i'm originally from illinois. operations like a right-to-work state like indiana and now michigan, that puts a lot of pressure on people right now mop where are the jobs? essentially this is about jobs. what michigan is trying to do is get more competitive. people are leaving michigan beca
on the heels of the michigan's right-to-work law. union leaders are focusing on upcoming gubernatorial elections. at the same time, looking at options on how to appeal the laws already in effect. the huffington post points out there's a slew of lawsuits, citizen's initiative, repealing legislation and line item veto. opponents' right-to-work laws are formulating a strategy of their own. if they got michigan perhaps this is where they'd move next. the top five states with unionized workforces....
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the fight now has moved to michigan. they are angry over the expect expected passage of a new law demanding dues from workers. that has them angry. happy monday, everybody. bill: how was the weekend. martha: weekend was good. it was like we got the tree up. it barely fits in the living room but that's okay. bill: michigan workers back to work, tomorrow, tuesday, the first order of business is the final votes on the law and off to the governor's desk. he has said he will sign it into law but critics day it's an assault on workers rights. have a listen here. >> this legislation isn't about anything except an attack on workers' rights and roll people back from what we fought for for generations. >> i view this as solving and issue for michigan workers. this is about giving workers choice. we have hard workers in michigan. martha: here we go. john fund is national affairs columnist for the national review. welcome. good morning to you. it's very interesting when you watch what some would call market forces, changing the dyna
the fight now has moved to michigan. they are angry over the expect expected passage of a new law demanding dues from workers. that has them angry. happy monday, everybody. bill: how was the weekend. martha: weekend was good. it was like we got the tree up. it barely fits in the living room but that's okay. bill: michigan workers back to work, tomorrow, tuesday, the first order of business is the final votes on the law and off to the governor's desk. he has said he will sign it into law but...
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ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in this country, you don't have to have -- you don't have to pass any test, you don't have to know anything about a gun, you don't have to have a background check to carry a concealed weapon. if the nra got its way it would pass its top federal priority which would allow people who could get a permit from any state in the country or didn't have to have a permit, or happen to live in states that hand them out like candy, and they would be able to use that permit to carry a concealed weapon in any city, in any community, in any place in the united states, including new york city and times square, where we ac
ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in...
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steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched the organization for a while, my dad was a licensed gun dealer in colorado, i know a lot of nra members, it was a really surprising performance. the nra is usually quite smart. then again, they've never been under pressure like this. it struck me as incoherent and bordering on detached from reality. talking about things lapierre gets paid a lot of money to talk about on a regular basis. it was not the time to say things even nra members don't believe. nra members are not the washington leadership. they're two very different things. nra members want commonsense gun la
steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched...
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you need to know this earlier this year michigan's republican governor rick snyder attended a hearing on capitol hill to talk about state economies and job creation he was asked about controversial right to work for less laws that starve unions of critical funding and leave working people collecting smaller paychecks with fewer benefits and vulnerable to more workplace accidents is what governor snyder had to say about these. right to work is an issue that's a very divisive issue people feel very strongly about it so right to work is an issue that may have its time and place but i don't believe it's appropriate michigan during two thousand and twelve i don't believe it's appropriate michigander in two thousand and twelve that's what snyder said earlier this year and yet at his behest at the end of. last week his republican colleagues in the state house and senate jammed through a right to work for less law in a rushed thursday evening vote as scores of labor protesters organized outside the state capitol only to call his fellow republicans to help him make michigan a right to work for
you need to know this earlier this year michigan's republican governor rick snyder attended a hearing on capitol hill to talk about state economies and job creation he was asked about controversial right to work for less laws that starve unions of critical funding and leave working people collecting smaller paychecks with fewer benefits and vulnerable to more workplace accidents is what governor snyder had to say about these. right to work is an issue that's a very divisive issue people feel...
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michigan union fighting a new crackdown. a legal eagle saying ♪ neil: well, signed to a sealed, but still not delivered. days after michigan's governor sign that right to work bill, different groups already filing lawsuits to block it. lots more are expected. the folk trying to block the law to have a case. they disagree. explain to me why they might have a case. >> to very important reasons. first, there s a due process issue about how this came int place. there was no notice. they actually closed down the state house. it was done in secret. whenever something is done in secr, people have something to hide, something that they are ashamed of. neil: like the health care law. >> you think? and that's correct. the public did not have an opportunity to weigh in, criticize command their opinion, which is what this country is based on. this is a huge reach to somehow argued that allowing in more protesters and citizens to yell at the legislators would have changed the outcome, i think it is preposterous. if that was the cases s
michigan union fighting a new crackdown. a legal eagle saying ♪ neil: well, signed to a sealed, but still not delivered. days after michigan's governor sign that right to work bill, different groups already filing lawsuits to block it. lots more are expected. the folk trying to block the law to have a case. they disagree. explain to me why they might have a case. >> to very important reasons. first, there s a due process issue about how this came int place. there was no notice. they...
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and it wasn't just michigan. sometimes we forget that earlier indiana was a right to work state too. so two midwestern states that are traditionally m heavy unionized moved to the right to work. i wouldn't be surprised if we see a couple more states fall. >> interesting i contrast in maryland and virginia. in virginian you have republican governor cutting taxes and cutting spending. you have a liberal governor who has raised income taxes, gas taxes and as a result virginia has a job growth rate that is three times that of maryland. virginia hasra a lower unemployment rate. you can see that contrast, and i think in this election it actually worked the present benefit in some of these swing states like ohio and virginia where you had voters in those states experiencing above average economic growth y thanks to the policies of the republican governors. >> then you see the alternatives. let me talk about the one state really pushed through a terrific pension reform, probably the best in the country. but if you loo tk
and it wasn't just michigan. sometimes we forget that earlier indiana was a right to work state too. so two midwestern states that are traditionally m heavy unionized moved to the right to work. i wouldn't be surprised if we see a couple more states fall. >> interesting i contrast in maryland and virginia. in virginian you have republican governor cutting taxes and cutting spending. you have a liberal governor who has raised income taxes, gas taxes and as a result virginia has a job...
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that's why in the last election which -- and frankly some michigan legislators -- one of the reasons they raced for it was because they weren't going to be able to do it after january 1st. >> eliot: republicans still have the majority in the house and senate. it seems to me everybody understands inequality is growing. everybody understands unions represent fewer or smaller percentage of the american work force every year. everybody understands the negotiating power of workers is diminishing and somehow out of that doesn't come what should, you and i think should follow therefore i support the effort to support collective bargaining to give workers the right to be more powerful. how do we make the last leap more visible to the public? >> number one we need -- well, i have a couple of theories about this. number one citizens united has actually hurt this hugely because the way in which you run for office you need a lot of money and you get a lot of money from a lot of hedge fund folk and rich cats. as a result, you are seeing a very tepid response by a lot of elected officials who priv
that's why in the last election which -- and frankly some michigan legislators -- one of the reasons they raced for it was because they weren't going to be able to do it after january 1st. >> eliot: republicans still have the majority in the house and senate. it seems to me everybody understands inequality is growing. everybody understands unions represent fewer or smaller percentage of the american work force every year. everybody understands the negotiating power of workers is...
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want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you are about to say. it's obvious, the tactic from the left are driving me crazy. they are not going to win friends or influence people by that type of behavior or attacking me because i say that the governor is a mild mannered guy. >> bob: you say he is mild mannered. i don't know him. but maybe he is. he signed the bill, refused a signing ceremony. done behind closed doors. >> greg: unlike the healthcare bill. >> eric: it was done absolutely legally. the people of michigan -- >> bob: voters -- no, they did not. >> eric: theyer with lechted. every one o
want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you...
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. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>> developing news this hour. protesters rae main out of michigan's capitol building urging the governor not to sign right to work legislation and barring them from requiring workers to pay union dues as a condition of employment. the state house passed both bills today dealing with private and public sector unions. protesters were shouting "shame on you" from the gallery. michael moore said they're up to 15,000 people at the protest. state senate passed both bills last week and now michigan governor rick snyder says he'll sign them as early as tomorrow. nbc's ron mott is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey
. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>>...
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as he indicated, from the floor of the michigan house, the michigan democrats owned this because they called for blood, and since the union organized it, i think there's implications here. talking about a culture of organized crime. neil: well, that might be the next step. it's a bit of a leap, but, scott, it's your view right now this has hurt the union movement for awhile? that americans seeing this will look at this and say, well, you want people to have the right to be a part of you. the part of you i see on tv scares me. >> yeah, i think it does hurt the union movement, and that's very unfortunate. you know, my family, allupon members in southeast michigan, and what's unfortunate, once legislation goes into effect, they can still belong to a union, they have the freedom to do that. the unions going down the road hurts themselves and chance to attract members when the members will have that opportunity to choose whether to be in the union or not. neil: scott, greg, thank you, both. greg, keep us posted if you're getting the reward and get the information needed. as i often say on
as he indicated, from the floor of the michigan house, the michigan democrats owned this because they called for blood, and since the union organized it, i think there's implications here. talking about a culture of organized crime. neil: well, that might be the next step. it's a bit of a leap, but, scott, it's your view right now this has hurt the union movement for awhile? that americans seeing this will look at this and say, well, you want people to have the right to be a part of you. the...
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in michigan, the parasites are looking fora i new host -- forcing michigan citizen who is do not want them there to be press into unions that they don't want to join. >> stop blaming the rank-and-file union member. they are not the ones causing this. it's the leadership -- >> yes, they are! >> after steven had his hans -- >> they pulled down a tent! it's not me! it's hundreds of people who were in a tent! come on, man! let's be honest! >> there were flame throwers and cancer patients everywhere. a little more dramatic. >> sean: thanks for being with us. the violence demonstrated by the union protesters is undeniable, the proof is in the footage. why did the mainstream media show none of this? we will look at the phony narrative. plus, tonight, we will check in with michelle malkin and much, much more as "hannity" continues. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh, this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15entrees under $15, seafood, chicken and more! oothe tilapiawith roast
in michigan, the parasites are looking fora i new host -- forcing michigan citizen who is do not want them there to be press into unions that they don't want to join. >> stop blaming the rank-and-file union member. they are not the ones causing this. it's the leadership -- >> yes, they are! >> after steven had his hans -- >> they pulled down a tent! it's not me! it's hundreds of people who were in a tent! come on, man! let's be honest! >> there were flame throwers...
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the michigan legislature voted in favor of two right to work bills giving employees and unionized shops the right to refuse to pay union dues. governor reich snyder expected to sign tomorrow even though thousands of people continue to protest outside the michigan state capitol building in lancing. it covers shops, but exempts police and firefighter unions. stub hub strikes out with major league baseball clubs and three are droppling them, yankees, chicago cub, and l.a. angels of anaheim no longer sell tickets on the website although major league baseball extended the partnership with stubhub through 2017. we continue the count down to the closing bell with the original bond girl who said, "diamonds are forever." liz claman? liz: one retailer down in the dumps, but it's shown signs of life. let's get to nicole's on the floor of the new york stock exchange. our diamond girl there. >> hey, thanks. jc penney under pressure with the idea that pronotions, sales, and coupons are not the way, but just great prices all the time. what happened? people didn't go there. people like promotions. he's
the michigan legislature voted in favor of two right to work bills giving employees and unionized shops the right to refuse to pay union dues. governor reich snyder expected to sign tomorrow even though thousands of people continue to protest outside the michigan state capitol building in lancing. it covers shops, but exempts police and firefighter unions. stub hub strikes out with major league baseball clubs and three are droppling them, yankees, chicago cub, and l.a. angels of anaheim no...
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the latest in michigan -- that was steve cook from the michigan education association. their website is mea.org. [ music ] >> together we can get new >> this is "the full court press: the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. museum benefit for victims of hurricane sandy, i booked the strongest, smartest comics i could find. my comedian friends and i will raise money to rebuild homes and lives one laugh at a time. so tune in next friday for my all star comedy special. >> together we can get new yorkers back to yelling at strangers and ignoring our friends. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current >> this is the full court press, "the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: here we go 25 minutes after the hour now, monday december 10th, a member of the president's president's cabinet, labor secretary hilda solis in studio with us in the next segment. talk about the job numbers for november that came out and the economy overall, job numbers came out on friday. very important decision by the supr
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>> well where we are seeing it is michigan michigan is coming back. i was interviewed by some woman from cnn yesterday. she said michigan's hemorrhaging jobs. i was like shocked. >> bill: where has she been? >> i am sitting there going, i couldn't believe i heard this on this headset. she said michigan is hemorrhaging jobs. isn't this going to help? i said where are you at? michigan is the comeback state. we are the one that's doing better. our unemployment is lower than the national average. we are hiring people in the auto industry. manufacturing is coming back. the teamsters we are getting more employees. there is no way about it. this is a setback. this is basically a continuation of the right-wing conspiracy, the tea party, and this is, you know, the karl roves, the grover norquists, the sheldon adelsons and the koch brothers. this is the same thing. this just didn't happen. this isn't the will of the people of michigan right now we are fighting this in new hampshire. we are fighting it in missouri and other states. b they get a republican govern
>> well where we are seeing it is michigan michigan is coming back. i was interviewed by some woman from cnn yesterday. she said michigan's hemorrhaging jobs. i was like shocked. >> bill: where has she been? >> i am sitting there going, i couldn't believe i heard this on this headset. she said michigan is hemorrhaging jobs. isn't this going to help? i said where are you at? michigan is the comeback state. we are the one that's doing better. our unemployment is lower than the...
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jeff flock is in lansing michigan covering the story for us. i thought it was interesting how you covered the scene there with michigan a few years back, excuse me, wisconsin. >> wisconsin, exactly. not the same kind of intensity. part of that is because this is already pretty much a done deal. there they had not a teacher headed off. the second one being debated right now. but renew over here to the scene of the george romney state office building. george romney, former governor of wisconsin, and father of mitt romney. the large group of protesters are trying to get into the crowd and see. they have essentially ringed the entrance of the building trying to make their voices heard. they feel very frustrated. they feel this had passed in a lame duck session without the opportunity for there to be more debate about it. that is their feeling. at this point you mentioned a little bit of white you could call it violence. nothing serious at this point, but we want to keep an eye on this because there are lots of folks, pretty hard to believe michigan
jeff flock is in lansing michigan covering the story for us. i thought it was interesting how you covered the scene there with michigan a few years back, excuse me, wisconsin. >> wisconsin, exactly. not the same kind of intensity. part of that is because this is already pretty much a done deal. there they had not a teacher headed off. the second one being debated right now. but renew over here to the scene of the george romney state office building. george romney, former governor of...
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unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you could follow throughout the entire rust belt. detroit population last year, 706,000. you know what it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this business back here and get numbers back up. matt that goes to the point you were making there. that union worker we just heard, the woman, african-american woman, what this means you can work alongside a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the r
unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you could follow throughout the entire rust belt. detroit population last year, 706,000. you know what it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this...
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. >> quick question on the michigan right to debate. there's one democrat who said today that if this right to work initiative is signed into law, quote, there will be blood. since the president weighed in yesterday and obviously made his feelings known, and has talked about changing the tone here in washington and around the country, do you -- does the white house feel any obligation to tell fellow democrats to debate this issue but debate it in a peaceful and -- >> the president believes in, you know, debate that's civil. i haven't seen those comments and i'm not sure that they mean what some would interrupt them to be -- interpret them to be, i just haven't seen them. the president has always opposed so-called right to work laws. as he said, those laws are generally political and not economic. they're more about the right to earn less pay than they are, you know, helpful to our economy. . he presented his views on that issue. ? when we were asking about the chicago teacher's strike before the election, you said it was a local issue a
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a big union fight in michigan. michigan the home of the powerful auto unions could become a right to work state. the governor is expected to sign a new law tomorrow, right to work, michigan, 24th state. unions have been protesting and bigger demonstrations are planned. listen to this: stuart: got pretty noisy. all right, all rise, judge andrew napolitano is here. judge, welcome back. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: now i think -- if a state becomes right to work, essentially that means that a union may not force its members to contribute dues. union membership becomes voluntary. am i right? >> well i would state it slightly differently, but we end up at the same point. in a right to work state, the state does not force people to join unions. stuart: okay. >> in a nonright to work state, it is a law that you join or contribute to the unions. so if you choose not to join, your employer is required to deduct from your salary the dues for the union and remit it to the union, whether you physically join, sign up the paper
a big union fight in michigan. michigan the home of the powerful auto unions could become a right to work state. the governor is expected to sign a new law tomorrow, right to work, michigan, 24th state. unions have been protesting and bigger demonstrations are planned. listen to this: stuart: got pretty noisy. all right, all rise, judge andrew napolitano is here. judge, welcome back. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: now i think -- if a state becomes right to work, essentially that means that...
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we begin in michigan which this month became the nation's 24th right to work state. we're back with jason riley and kim strassel and wall street journal senior economics writer steve moore also joins the panel. so, steve, this is really an interesting story that i don't think gets enough attention. >> i agree. >> paul: the reforms taking place across the country in a lot of states. who are the stars you're looking at? >> i entirely agreement with your premise, paul. if you look at, talk about the demise of the republicans on the national levels we're not seeing that on the state level. there are 30 republican governors today in america, the republicans actually picked up a governorship in north carolina so that south now is almost entirely republican, whereas just 25 years ago, it was pretty entirely democratic. and it's not just the south. states like-- >> what are they doing with that power, that's the interesting thing. >> so, they have the power and they are actually using it, af got states like kansas, and florida that have been cutting taxes aggressively to pro
we begin in michigan which this month became the nation's 24th right to work state. we're back with jason riley and kim strassel and wall street journal senior economics writer steve moore also joins the panel. so, steve, this is really an interesting story that i don't think gets enough attention. >> i agree. >> paul: the reforms taking place across the country in a lot of states. who are the stars you're looking at? >> i entirely agreement with your premise, paul. if you...
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i had members of our organizaon, 87,000 members in michigan were afraid to come tuesday. i assured them it would be safe because if there's any place we have to be able to a public discourse and exchange of ideas and to feel safe, it's at the state capitol and state capitol grounds, and part of the reason we're callg for full investigation is because these intimidation tacics cannot work. they cannot happen, and the heart of the democracy is to be able to engauge in debate, and that's why we need a full investigation. these people need to be brought to justice, and we needed to know what happened so we can prevent this in the future. neil: the unions know who they are. talk about it, you know, i was in wisconsin or the recall election of scott walker, and, you know, no one hit me, happy to say, because, boy, that would have been a doozy of a suit, and they called me a chain of words i never seen combined the way they did, or used as many gestures at me as they did. clearly, not a fan of fox, maybe not a fan of me, or thought i was sean hannity, but the fact of the matter,
i had members of our organizaon, 87,000 members in michigan were afraid to come tuesday. i assured them it would be safe because if there's any place we have to be able to a public discourse and exchange of ideas and to feel safe, it's at the state capitol and state capitol grounds, and part of the reason we're callg for full investigation is because these intimidation tacics cannot work. they cannot happen, and the heart of the democracy is to be able to engauge in debate, and that's why we...
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it happened yesterday in michigan. michigan became the 24th state to pass right to work legislation. what that means is you no long have to join a union. >> brian: you can if you want! you absolutely can. >> steve: you just don't have to join it. which is terrific because there are a lot of people who don't want to. you look at right to work states versus unionized states and right to work states, people actually are doing quite well when it comes to unemployment. this all got started with a one-day drive last week that really surprised the united auto workers, otherwise they would have had their ducks lined up in a row before that. it turned into the legislation that passed and was signed by the governor yesterday. if you missed how it all came together, let's take you back a couple of days. start with the president of the united states when he was actually in michigan and bring you up to yesterday. >> what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages. they're talking about givi
it happened yesterday in michigan. michigan became the 24th state to pass right to work legislation. what that means is you no long have to join a union. >> brian: you can if you want! you absolutely can. >> steve: you just don't have to join it. which is terrific because there are a lot of people who don't want to. you look at right to work states versus unionized states and right to work states, people actually are doing quite well when it comes to unemployment. this all got...
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i bring it up as backdrop to this michigan debate. if you're a union leader there, do you want to lose all the jobs or get a job at 18, $19 an hour? >> if you're a union leader, you probably vote for fewer jobs at higher wages because you will protect your base. if you're an average michigan person, which is why this thing is probably reasonably popular there, i just want a job and willing to take it at $14.50 a job. >> last week, apple announced the same thing, they're bringing jobs back. executives said they had a duty to do it. it was their obligation to do it. >> when you do something for that reason, it's not a huge number. >>> guys, read the atlantic monthly. we had the author on. james on, come back. the suggestion in this article at least, outsourcing was a fad, a corporate fad. some businesses trying to make a quick buck over a decade. at the end of the day, it didn't work and even if it worked for a while, it doesn't work in our economy. >> saying it's a fad is a really dangerous thing to say. that's not what it was. it wasn
i bring it up as backdrop to this michigan debate. if you're a union leader there, do you want to lose all the jobs or get a job at 18, $19 an hour? >> if you're a union leader, you probably vote for fewer jobs at higher wages because you will protect your base. if you're an average michigan person, which is why this thing is probably reasonably popular there, i just want a job and willing to take it at $14.50 a job. >> last week, apple announced the same thing, they're bringing...
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. >>> one of the most surprising experiences i had on "lockup" i was working in michigan city, indiana, my hometown at indiana state penitentiary and i actually ran into somebody i used to hang out with when i was a child. we were shooting in the visitation room and i kind of saw him out of the corner of my eye, and it was one of those odd moments because what do you do? i didn't want to interrupt his visit and say hello, but later on as we were interviewing somebody else, he found me and came up to me and started talking to me, and talking to him for a good while and it was just the most interesting experience because i hadn't seen him in years and to be talking to him as he's now an inmate and, you know, when we were 12, 13 years old i would never have guessed i would have been seeing him in this position. >> visitation often proves to be a place not only to find great stories, but to see inmates in a different light. >> when we first met jonathan hall serving 40 years for second degree murder at colorado's limon correctional facility, we wouldn't have guessed that one of the most em
. >>> one of the most surprising experiences i had on "lockup" i was working in michigan city, indiana, my hometown at indiana state penitentiary and i actually ran into somebody i used to hang out with when i was a child. we were shooting in the visitation room and i kind of saw him out of the corner of my eye, and it was one of those odd moments because what do you do? i didn't want to interrupt his visit and say hello, but later on as we were interviewing somebody else, he...
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>>> incredible scenes out of lansing, michigan. earlier today the michigan legislature passed the right to work bill essentially ending mandatory union payments all in a state that gave birth to u affi aw. goes to members desk. live in lansing, joe. >> reporter: well, it got ugly here a little while ago. the demonstrators parked in front of the capital most of the day. this is the scene just outside the capital across the street and in front of the governor's office. massive state police troopers have tried to force the crowd north down the streets to try to get them from the front of the governor's office. we understand the governor is going to sign this legislation any minute now or any time this afternoon. as can you see there's a very, very large standoff, if you will, right now, both front and back of us of supporters of organized labor in the state of michigan and elsewhere, as well as michigan state police trooper trying to keep some sort of semblance of order here. again, the house in michigan passed legislation earlier tod
>>> incredible scenes out of lansing, michigan. earlier today the michigan legislature passed the right to work bill essentially ending mandatory union payments all in a state that gave birth to u affi aw. goes to members desk. live in lansing, joe. >> reporter: well, it got ugly here a little while ago. the demonstrators parked in front of the capital most of the day. this is the scene just outside the capital across the street and in front of the governor's office. massive...
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we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant increase talking about thousands of jobs to their state. >> steve: that's what it is it about. think about the jobs. yesterday on the program, 24 hours ago. stewart varney talked about how the city of detroit looking to washington d.c. for a bailout. the city of dedroit only have thee million in the bank. they need a bailout or hand out toward the federal government because they overwhelmingly in wayne county voted for the president of the united states. sounds like they are heading for bankruptcy. >> brian: do you know what your elected officials are doing. passing a bill to ban the word lunatic. >> gretche
we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant...
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host: here is a story out of michigan. "connecticut gun laws allow permit holders to have handguns in schools but fall short of measures approved by michigan lawmakers. they must also give the gun owner permission." host: texas, san antonio, good morning. caller: my spin on the guns is that we have got to get rid of the 2, 2, 3, and the high- powered rifles. i know that i spent 27 years there and i know the difference. -- in the military and i know the difference. the speed that the bullet hits your shoulder, they would just be wounded. these band-16's, you could hit them in the hand. -- m-16's. the speed of the bullet just explodes. i would estimate that even if the guy was using the old semi- automatic, people would be killed. -- half the people would be killed. i know it is not much, but if we could just get away with the assault rifles, it would hold down the massacres, like what happened in the school. only half would have been killed. from my knowledge of weapons over 27 years, it is different. you hear that a person
host: here is a story out of michigan. "connecticut gun laws allow permit holders to have handguns in schools but fall short of measures approved by michigan lawmakers. they must also give the gun owner permission." host: texas, san antonio, good morning. caller: my spin on the guns is that we have got to get rid of the 2, 2, 3, and the high- powered rifles. i know that i spent 27 years there and i know the difference. -- in the military and i know the difference. the speed that the...
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virginia, down through western north carolina, around kentucky, and more rain, too, back in aas of michigan, around illinois, chicago's wet. st. louis, missouri, too. there's the cold front. there's the area of low pressure coming up from the south, all helping to deliver a little bit of wet weather by tomorrow morning. 36, 37 degrees, a few light showers that i think will start around 4:00 a.m., 5:00 a.m. and continue tomorrow until only about 11:00 a.m. for the afternoon, it's going to be dry. look, there we'll have clouds still around. it will be mostly cloudy. then our chance for those saturday morning showers, those i think will stay right up north of the maryland border. just skirting the area. we will, however, have some morning fog on saturday. and a little bit of late-day sunshine. it is going to be plenty warm, so don't worry about those clouds on saturday. sunday, a little cooler. it will be a northeasterly wind with showers coming in i think late in the day on sunday. so this will be a weekend now that we can salvage and get out there and enjoy. increasing clouds for your evenin
virginia, down through western north carolina, around kentucky, and more rain, too, back in aas of michigan, around illinois, chicago's wet. st. louis, missouri, too. there's the cold front. there's the area of low pressure coming up from the south, all helping to deliver a little bit of wet weather by tomorrow morning. 36, 37 degrees, a few light showers that i think will start around 4:00 a.m., 5:00 a.m. and continue tomorrow until only about 11:00 a.m. for the afternoon, it's going to be...
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we think of michigan as a union state. the margin was 58-42. the same day that barack obama won the state by ten points. i wonder your paper and the detroit news has been absolutely killing them over this. the free press has been killing snyder over this and endorsed him and turned completely. i wonder if that is indicative of a backlash this is not about the law itself. is there a backlash about the way it's happening and he said he wouldn't do this and a lame duck session. is there a backlash about the way this happened? >> absolutely. everyone is pretty angry about that. up until last tuesday, governor snyder said this was not on his agenda. it was too devicive and didn't want to deal with it. he came back and said it's on my agenda for a thoughtful discussion and by thursday the house and senate passed it without any public hearings and input or committee hearings. people are upset about how it was passed. republican had to get it done in the lame duck. after january they may not have been able to get it done. the republicans still will hav
we think of michigan as a union state. the margin was 58-42. the same day that barack obama won the state by ten points. i wonder your paper and the detroit news has been absolutely killing them over this. the free press has been killing snyder over this and endorsed him and turned completely. i wonder if that is indicative of a backlash this is not about the law itself. is there a backlash about the way it's happening and he said he wouldn't do this and a lame duck session. is there a backlash...
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and, indeed, the governor of michigan, rick snyder, has pledged to take a close look at legislation that would allow concealed weapons in schools and churches. will that save us from the kind of tragedy we had on friday? >> we work with survivors of gun violence every day. we just had, as you saw, many of them in to city hall to meet with mayor bloomberg. one is steve barton who was in the theater in aurora more a gunman killed so many people and his view is parallel to what you hear from law enforcement experts who are trained to use firearms who say there is no way in a confused situation on the street, in a theater, in a school that more firearms in the hands of more people makes you any safer, particularly because they're far less likely to be well-trained in their use than the police. >> goldie, you have handled serious firearms in your former life as a marine. is there any possible justification for a citizen to have access to semiautomatic weapons like a bushmaster and a magazine that can hold 30 rounds? what possible sporting justification is there for that? >> there is none. if
and, indeed, the governor of michigan, rick snyder, has pledged to take a close look at legislation that would allow concealed weapons in schools and churches. will that save us from the kind of tragedy we had on friday? >> we work with survivors of gun violence every day. we just had, as you saw, many of them in to city hall to meet with mayor bloomberg. one is steve barton who was in the theater in aurora more a gunman killed so many people and his view is parallel to what you hear from...
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steve hartman "on the road" in midland, michigan. >> and that's the "cbs evening news." i'll see you sunday on "60 minutes." for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night. i'm allen martin. i'm allen martin. california's unemployment re ha the >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. >>> i'm juliette goodrich. >> i'm allen martin. california's unemployment rate has not been this good since the recession began four years ago. but are the numbers truly indicative of a rebounded? there are a lot of factors that go into the single-digit jobless rate. cbs 5 reporter grace lee with why it may be too quick to say we have finally turned the corner. >> reporter: juliette, our state still has the third worst unemployment rate in the nation. we're well above the national rate. so we spoke with a former director of the state's labor department who says that the unemployment rate is really just one piece of the overall economic picture and it may look better than it actually is. >> i think the rate it's important but it means less and less of indicating what's
steve hartman "on the road" in midland, michigan. >> and that's the "cbs evening news." i'll see you sunday on "60 minutes." for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night. i'm allen martin. i'm allen martin. california's unemployment re ha the >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. >>> i'm juliette goodrich. >> i'm allen martin. california's unemployment rate has not been this good since the recession began four...
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if you ask the people in michigan a year or two ago would michigan be right to work, said would never happen in our state but it is happening. as more states come right-to-work, isolated states have forced unionism and it will not work. i was making point, remember the famous incident about a year or two ago when boeing moved their facility out of washington state to south carolina and there was all this opposition to doing that. one of the reasons boeing moved to south carolina with that big plant, hundreds of workers was because south carolina is right-to-work state. bill: instead of washington where they were going to make the dreamliner, 787 is union. we saw the fight that ensued after that. after watching pictures in michigan, steve, if you're a politician, you have to have a strong spine to push this through. >> you do. bill: how many do? >> no doubt about it. no doubt about it. by the way i want to tip my hat to the people in the legislature in michigan who stood up to the kind of union thugs who were using violence as a way to prevent this. earlier on fox speaker of the house
if you ask the people in michigan a year or two ago would michigan be right to work, said would never happen in our state but it is happening. as more states come right-to-work, isolated states have forced unionism and it will not work. i was making point, remember the famous incident about a year or two ago when boeing moved their facility out of washington state to south carolina and there was all this opposition to doing that. one of the reasons boeing moved to south carolina with that big...
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to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the $25 billion price tag on this little-known tax will affect everyone of us. we'll tell you what it is. bill: we'll get back to this tragic mall shooting in oregon. the height of the mall shopping season. inside the mind of a shooter and an update from police on a possible motive this story. >> for all of us the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families. feel comfortable this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop?
to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the...
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. >> and a big little storm is causing havoc across the midwest and into michigan. it's making a big mess. let's get you to the next story now. also, secretary of state hillary clinton is delaying an overseas trip. she will be delayed by just a day. >>> gas prices have dropped ten cents in the last two weeks. the average price of regular is $3.38 a gallon. finally, getting back to the big winter storm wreaking havoc, it's the heaviest snowfall this season. minnesota police say that it's caused 300 car accidents in 24 hour. that is the news. let's get you back to your program. >>> for more than 200 inmates at the anamosa state penitentiary in iowa, there is one thing for certain, decades from now they will be exactly where they are today. behind bars. you're about to meet some of these lifers, men who have had to accept a harsh reality that a life in prison is the only life they'll ever have. on a hill overlooking anamosa is a small cemetery. it's a quiet, desolate place. and like the prison itself, the gravestones are old and weathered. >> being buried in our cemete
. >> and a big little storm is causing havoc across the midwest and into michigan. it's making a big mess. let's get you to the next story now. also, secretary of state hillary clinton is delaying an overseas trip. she will be delayed by just a day. >>> gas prices have dropped ten cents in the last two weeks. the average price of regular is $3.38 a gallon. finally, getting back to the big winter storm wreaking havoc, it's the heaviest snowfall this season. minnesota police say...
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the upper part of the lower peninsula of michigan. there were suddenly a large number of people in relatively small communities with very severe, bloody, diarrheal illness. and when these people went to their health care providers, the health care providers took specimens, tested them for the bugs that they knew caused that type of bloody diarrhea and came up with nothing. they turned first to the local, then to the state public health department, and when that didn't turn up any answers, the state asked the cdc for assistance. and so in circumstances where people can't come up with the causative agent, those specimens can then come into our laboratories, and we can run tests for a variety of different things that are both known and unknown. and that's what we did in that particular situation. and one of the things that we noticed is that we found that there were unusual e. coli in several of the specimens that were submitted to us from both oregon and from michigan. now, everyone normally has e. coli in their g.i. tract. it's a norma
the upper part of the lower peninsula of michigan. there were suddenly a large number of people in relatively small communities with very severe, bloody, diarrheal illness. and when these people went to their health care providers, the health care providers took specimens, tested them for the bugs that they knew caused that type of bloody diarrhea and came up with nothing. they turned first to the local, then to the state public health department, and when that didn't turn up any answers, the...
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you know, off the election, off of a win in michigan? how hard does he need to push this? >> i don't think he -- he is thinking he owes them a ton, but this is an threat to labor. this is a violent attack on the right to organize. it's much more radical than what was attempted in wisconsin or ohio. labor is flipping out, understandably so, and i think they're trying to stop snyder who may have wandered into a fight that is more extreme than he ever intended to. >> obama ultimately does -- i mean, if this is an easy way to keep your base close, he needs his base close if is he going to cut some sort of deal that are going to be unhappy with some part of ultimately. >> and also, if is he going to be continuing this campaign style strategy of taking his priorities out to the american public using grass rights networks to get support for them, whether that's immigration reform or maybe energy reform. he has to keep some out of the progressive network intact. the election and recent polling shows that the tide of public opinion is turning on marriage equality. something assista
you know, off the election, off of a win in michigan? how hard does he need to push this? >> i don't think he -- he is thinking he owes them a ton, but this is an threat to labor. this is a violent attack on the right to organize. it's much more radical than what was attempted in wisconsin or ohio. labor is flipping out, understandably so, and i think they're trying to stop snyder who may have wandered into a fight that is more extreme than he ever intended to. >> obama ultimately...
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protests are over a push by the governor of michigan, rick snyder to make michigan a right to work state. letting workers in michigan decide whether or not they want to join unions. so the capitol is scheduled to close in just about two and a half hours from now. so police say anyone who refuses to leave will be arrested and will be charged with trespa trespassing. >>> i want to talk about this, though. one of the biggest companies, the biggest companies without a doubt in the world moving jobs out of china. bringing them back to america. apple c eo tim cook with this announcement. >> so we've been working for years on doing more and more in the united states. next year, one of the existing mac lines in the united states. >> existing mac lines. dan simons, you cover things technology here. apple's been under pressure to move production back here, back to the u.s. why now? >> reporter: well, you know, they've been under pressure to do this for sometime. something to do with the human rights an i buss in the plants and here's an opportunity to give back, you know, something to the american
protests are over a push by the governor of michigan, rick snyder to make michigan a right to work state. letting workers in michigan decide whether or not they want to join unions. so the capitol is scheduled to close in just about two and a half hours from now. so police say anyone who refuses to leave will be arrested and will be charged with trespa trespassing. >>> i want to talk about this, though. one of the biggest companies, the biggest companies without a doubt in the world...